Originally by: Lrrp

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Originally by: Grath Telkin

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Hell, you'll be lucky if you can still afford a marketing department at the rate your going.

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You ever wonder where the marketing team from SOE went? Nah, couldn't be.

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Originally by: mamolian

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It's been years since I experienced any major lag.. People have such short memories..
I remember being in yulai with 80 in local and the lag comparable now to jita with 1100..

To say CCP is doing nothing to fix lag is not only ridiculous.. its malicious

I won't lie, this thread is a bag of ****.

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Originally by: Abulurd Boniface

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I just found the reason for all the lag in the system: it's thousands of people on one shard incessantly complaining about lag. All those messages have to be sent and received and it ads an ungodly amount of needless traffic through the pipe that would otherwise have gone to more useful things such as, top of my head here, placing a carrier on the grid in less time than it takes for the greater EVE community [oh, what boisterous venom is captured in that word] to erupt in a whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaambulance.

CCP have:
- greatly enhanced the beauty of the gaming world
- offered new ways to make ones own fortune
- created a greater challenge in establishing dominion
- made improvements in mineral yields for miners [true, more can be done]
- continuously invested in better hardware which will translate in a better user experience
- made it possible for more people to make tentative steps into the shadow world of zero-sec and take a peek at all the riches that can be had
- continuously made improvements to the user interface [although it would be too kind to say that work is done]
- created a user base that is as fiercely fanatical as it can be childishly impetuous [and not very strong in the spelling department]
- been just about the only [that I am aware of] MMO that has created a system of persistent user representation through the CSM. It is not perfect, but no form of government is.
- been nothing short of generous [100000 extra skill points -and- a free new spaceframe for -every- account] whenever it feared it had overly burdened its user base.

And all this with a flair for technological innovation and pizzaz that does not have an equal in the universe of online gaming on planet Earth today.

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Originally by: Blane Xero

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Originally by: TheBlueMonkey

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If there was a vote for "least **** mmo"

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Least **** is no different than Best, it's only different wording in order to give the illusion of difference as if to paint it in a different light.

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Originally by: DeathCanWait

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i will be perfectly honest here: all u whiners can go and suck the milk from a dead cow while playing a game better than eve.
You idiots must understand that every game out there had its ups and downs .... wow has crashes and mega lags in wintergrasp ... lineage kept failing on mass sieges ... even CoD is filled with hacks and ****.

Just because CCP failed with its latest free expansion doesn`t have to mean that the game sucks or is broken ... for me at least its great and i love it. If u don`t like it GTFO ... if u`r playin it .. vote for it!

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Originally by: Captain Mung

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Of course we should vote for EvE as the best game in the universe when it has awesome features like these!: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxbuiUlU47I

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Originally by: Jamus Gorrelius

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And still no reply lol

Do we mean that little to you?

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Originally by: Zeba

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Originally by: Leonard Delmordaine

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lol... you must live in empire... since most of the alliances i know do plexes and ratting.

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Sure there is some level of that in every alliance but each system can only support so much of that due to spawn rates which still leaves the vast majority of members to seek the not quite as good but still excellent isk of highsec. But tell me this? Are those activites lagged out when there is no fleet fight eating up the nodes performance? Or is anyone even remotely disatisfied with the content they provide? Hmmmm? Remember the entire game is supposedly broken and unplayable if you do anything in nullsec says the annoyed fleet fight players.

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Originally by: Zeba

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Collective reply:

One needs only to keep track of the map with pilots active in space to see that nullsec is hardly ever populated except for when there is a fight going on. So where are all these tens of thousands of alliance members at then? Oh yeah in low sec and high sec on their alts. It might even be true that the entirely of an alliances members are literally in nullsec at all times but those same members are still in low sec and high sec with their alts playing the game. How do I know this? Because I play right along with them in fw. Most are bored with nullsec due to the blobbyness or lack of fights but still stay joined to the corp on the cap ship main for those times when there is some action to be had. Also to the ones now defending the population of nullsec with the cry of 'zomg we do other stuff in lullsec besides fleet fights and we NEVER go to high sec so how dare you compare me to a carebear!!!111' welp it sure must be pretty playable in nullsec then.. Seems you guys keep cutting your own arguments legs off in mid stride.. So what is it? Is eve broken and unplayable or not?

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Originally by: Captain Yifan

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Originally by: Zeba

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Is eve broken and unplayable or not?

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I'm not saying the game is broken (now define the word 'broken'?). To me, WoW and all the other MMOs are 10000 times more broken than EvE on its worst day. I will say this one last time: Your argument is based on a staw man fallacy:

What we are mad/angry/emorage/fuming/upset about, is the fact that CCP proudly declares publically (well, have to admire their honesty, though) that it is not going to fix multiple issues (including ones that actually concerns high-sec activities and FW, aka, ones that matters to you) despite acknowledge it a long time ago, and now is bold (shameless, pants on head?) enough to appeal to us to vote for them in a gaming reward. While you are claiming that we are mad because we feel the game is dying because we cant 'blob vs blob' anymore.

To summarise, EvE is not dying, and while it has bugs that needs to be resolved it is still a very deep, immersive and entertaining game. However, when CCP decides to treat its playerbase like $insert_obscene_object then there will be an inevitable kick in the backside to remind them that who actually feed their hamsters.

I have nothing more to say on this matter. and, last, shameless bump.

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Originally by: Zeba

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np. Quashing self centered ignorance is a hobby of mine.

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Originally by: Zeba

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They say that the light of truth burns like a fire in the mind of the troll. So yeah the fire of logic vs the flames of the trolls is a valid comparison.

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Originally by: MarcusMaximus Milius

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...just fear its creators hav givin up on it :(

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Originally by: Drek Grapper

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Edited by: Drek Grapper on 06/08/2010 15:43:35
Actions speak louder than words people...

VOTE WITH YOUR FEET

DON'T RESUB

The drop in revenue would surely get someone to WAKE UP

Edit: oh and page 66 snipe!!

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Originally by: Micheal Newmann

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Originally by: Alex's Slave

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2010.07.28 10:56:26

Victim: EVE Online
Corp: Crowd Control Publications
Alliance: NONE
Faction: NONE
Destroyed: Faith
System: Broken
Security: 1.0
Damage Taken: 60,453
Involved parties:

Name: EVE Playerbase (laid the final blow)
Security: 5.0
Corp: Various
Alliance: Crusaders for Excellence
Faction: NONE
Ship: Subscription
Weapon: Subscription Cancelling Autocannon II
Damage Done: 60,453

Destroyed items:

Reputation II
Customer Satisfaction I (Qty. 4)

Dropped items:

Ball

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Originally by: Desert Ice78

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So Zymurgist......After 75 pages, I would love to hear how YOU think the voting campaign for the European Games Award is going??

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Originally by: King Aires

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Getting far too close to the bottom... STAY UP

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Originally by: Zeba

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Also in before the usual 'they only did it because we stamped our feet and fussed like little kids everywhere there was a reply to post button' poast.

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Originally by: Zeba

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Originally by: Syn Callibri

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Originally by: Zeba

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Also in before the usual 'they only did it because we stamped our feet and fussed like little kids everywhere there was a reply to post button' poast.

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I have to disagree Zeba...its moar like, 'The PR people we hired finally got the best language together so that we can make it sound like we give a s**t.' It took how long for them to even say anything about it? It would have been more professional to have addressed it before it became as big a bi**h-fest as it has. Thats called good customer relations...oh wait.

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Amazing. Damned if you do and damned if you don't. Also I didn't realise responding to the usual forum trolls was supposed to be a design priority to actually fixing the issues the game has. If anything the real effect all these blogs will have is to take away the time and most importantly the focus the devs in question need to do their work. It's not a good practice to pull code junkies out of their programming trance to explain themselves to the monkeys. So good going guys for delaying the fix to lag yet again. Proud of yourselves?

Stay away from my house though as I don't want it burnt down.

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Originally by: Zeba

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Originally by: Syn Callibri

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Ummm Zeba, if the non-vocal majority of players have spoken...where does that make you?

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I'm simply vocal. Call me a loose forum cannon if you wish.

Originally by: Syn Callibri

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All this award does is let CCP say "See, we dont have to listen to you and we can still win awards"...meh, whatever.

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I'm sure that small knot of protesters outside a government/corporation office holding the signs with 'Save the blue prickle backed grasshopper from extinction! Vote no to the new factory/school/whatevah!' feel exactly the same way when they get ignored.

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Originally by: Professor Tarantula

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Originally by: Lahari

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It was also a great chance to drop that uglydance link.

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Agreed.

Just to gloat a little myself, here's a prophecy of mine back on page 78.

Originally by: Professor Tarantula

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Watch them win, and cause an even larger community outrage.

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However, I'd like you all to refrain from becoming my followers and treating me like divinity, and instead send me monies as a sign of your reverence.

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Originally by: Ji Sama

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...coincidently are running a few trash mmo websites, that no one reads anyways!

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Originally by: Plac3Holder

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Edited by: Plac3Holder on 19/08/2010 20:17:00

Originally by: HarrietMiers

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Edited by: HarrietMiers on 19/08/2010 18:05:05

Originally by: Plac3Holder

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I agree with you both. This thread did exactly what it was intended to do - get people to vote for EvE and help it win.

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You are really, really stupid if you think CCP was happy about this thread. The award means nothing, the bad press across a dozen MMO sites and the mass user outrage look awful.

Hard to think when your head is up the developer's bum, no?

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You are really, really stupid if you think the pathetic, childish emo-raging in this thread meant anything.

We'll see the impact of the "bad press from fansites written by disgruntled, noisy fans" over time. My guess is that there will be none. EvE will continue to grow, CCP will continue to tune, tweak and perfect their game, and all the sad, sad little people complaining in this thread will continue to subscribe.

It'll be devastating.

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